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RvR Pack? Skaven? New Zone? – What Would You Ask?

August 19, 2010

As I type this, we’ve only heard bits and pieces from Gamescom in Germany of what Bioware Mythic has had under wraps for the near-future of WAR.

I was hoping more would be known before we hit up Games Day Baltimore and started our own blogger interviews, but there’s still time I guess.

However, I wanted to put out the call to all WAR players and ask you for your input if you can’t make it to GDB.

What do you want to know?  What would you ask if you were there?

Here’s your chance to get the inside scoop on WAR.

Fire away!


Before we start, a few disclaimers:

  • I can’t guarantee that your question will get answered, all I can do is ask.
  • I may change the way the question is phrased, but keep the intent intact, to try to make sure it gets answered with as much information as possible.
  • Questions not directly pertaining to the information they’re releasing this weekend will be low-priority to me and only get asked if we run out of the others.  For obvious reasons.
  • I have questions I want answered too!  So don’t expect me to JUST ask the ones you submit.  :p

Here’s a quick synopsis of what we know so far:

  • Skaven are involved, but not as a standard race you can play from Rank 1 on.
  • There will be an “RvR Pack” or something like that.  Maybe multiple “Packs”.
  • There will be 20 more Renown Ranks, allowing you to go up to 100.
  • Progression through lower Renown Ranks will be “smoother”.
  • This is not part of a “Free to Play” model.
  • There will be multiple purchase options that address “Power, Progression and Personality”.
  • There will be a new Zone.

I’ll update this section through Friday night and make note of all questions submitted.  If I can check it again Saturday morning before Games Day starts, I will.  But don’t bet on it as WAR Day Out @Camden Yards is Friday night and may go on late.  😉  So get your questions in ASAP!

So, fire away with your questions in the Comment section and I will start adding them to “The List”.


59 Comments leave one →
  1. Kyrus permalink
    August 19, 2010 6:23 pm

    Other than “choice” , what is the reasoning/intent for the multiple purchase options?

    • Kyrus permalink
      August 19, 2010 6:24 pm

      Note: granted I know that this will most likely be addressed in an interview at some point, but if not.

  2. Rayva permalink
    August 19, 2010 6:28 pm

    Does the 20 New Ranks mean, there will be 0ne or two new Sets? Names of these Sets? How to get them?


  3. GoldenTiger permalink
    August 19, 2010 6:34 pm

    Will these “DLC’s” be available together as a retail package?

  4. GoldenTiger permalink
    August 19, 2010 6:36 pm

    Will renown rank changes to the amount of renown take into account the extra amount you’ve already earned? I.E. if I’m renown rank 70 which for example takes 5 million renown, but now it only takes 4 million to become RR70 and 5 million for RR75, will I go up in rank to 75, or will I remain 70 and lose the extra renown I had earned?

    • August 19, 2010 6:42 pm

      This could be an interesting follow-up question to “Is making the Renown Rank process smoother in the lower Ranks going to be done by changing the amount you need to earn for those Ranks?” Until that question is asked and answered with a “Yes”, your question can never be asked. Everyone should keep that in mind when formulating your questions. Don’t assume anything. Ask first, then follow-up.

  5. GoldenTiger permalink
    August 19, 2010 6:38 pm

    What kind of timeframe are we looking at for when these “RvR packs” might be released? Within the next few months, or are we talking half a year or more?

  6. Elog permalink
    August 19, 2010 6:40 pm

    Will there be new battle fields/zones? Roughly how many?

    • August 19, 2010 6:43 pm

      They’ve already stated there will be one new Zone. I would suggest asking more specific questions about that Zone if you want more information on it. Thanks!

  7. Micke permalink
    August 19, 2010 6:41 pm


    Will Pre-Made vs Pre-Made become available for Scenarios in the near future ?
    Pug vs Pre-made is no fun, for neither of the teams. Most people who have reached a certain RR level, and have played Warhammer for a long time, wants some more competition.
    I have always wondered if it also will become available some sort of Guild Wb vs Guild Wb scenario at a certain RR level, so you have something to look forward too, instead of only waiting to spend 1 more renown point on something.

    Will Rdps be looked into ? My personal experience, along with others is that Rdps doesnt stand a chanse against Mdps, due to lag and melee range. Bw or Sorcs does not have a ability called Blink or Teleport like in so many other mmos, so if a Melee comes to close, with this ability you can move away. As it is right now, tho Bw & Sorc does alot of dmg, i would prefeer if you would Nerf dmg output and give us survivabillity instead.
    When it is like this, most people go for Aoe, since Single target Bw never stands a chanse solo anyway. Isnt that so ?

    Duel system is a good way to both have fun between friends, to check out a new specc and to see & learn how to play your class abit better. Will you ever put Duel system in ?

    LOTD (Land of the dead) Why is it that you have to gather resources in order to enter ? Why not just Open up Lotd, and let it be open for both Order & Destruction always. I really dont see the need in having a system like you have atm.

    Why have you only made changes to Sovereign sets, and not all the sets ?
    One class has 3 different mastery trees right ? So in theory there should be 3 different sets Ex Conqueror, invader,warlord aswell. Even annihilator, right ?
    Will you look into that, or is that something you guys are working on ?

    Will it be possible to see how armor looks on you before purchasing it ?

    Will Guild houses come to warhammer online ? If you look at altdorf its pretty hughe, there are places you can fill that void with something like Guild houses.
    Anything you guys have thought about ?

    Customisation is a vital part of any mmo. Especially how you progress through with your character, like mastery paths. Will you add something more later on?
    Customisation is also how you look, you have alot of different gear in warhammer online, but to be honest, most look the same. Will you add more variety in how gear look ?
    And will there be a option to Gear up your mount, only for appearance ofc 🙂

    • August 19, 2010 7:09 pm

      I’m gonna be honest here. Most of this won’t get asked. As I stated in my post, if it’s not directly related to the news their announcing, it won’t get asked. These are general game questions. Those are best kept for the Vent Q&As or forum posts. Sorry.

  8. Aurilian permalink
    August 19, 2010 6:49 pm

    With the addition of the new renown ranks, will there be a change to the current Renown Training System, either in the addition of new abilities or general cost changes to current stat increases?

    Will there be any incentive towards reaching RR90 – 100 apart from renown points and a flashy title?

  9. TheCrazyness permalink
    August 19, 2010 7:05 pm

    Will there be large underground segments or zones now that the Skaven are involved?
    If so then will there be mechanics like rock falls and cave ins and having to bring a candle to see by? Those kinds of things?

  10. Gett permalink
    August 19, 2010 7:06 pm

    Since you are the word smith gwarr:

    Power, Progression, Personality? Discuss.

    Is it possible to change the names to Pride, Power, and Pinstripes?

  11. TheCrazyness permalink
    August 19, 2010 7:06 pm

    Sorry for the double.

    New crafting mechanics or new kinds of trades? Please say yes!

    • August 19, 2010 8:21 pm

      No worries, ask as many questions as you want as long as they’re pertinent. 🙂

  12. testpig permalink
    August 19, 2010 7:07 pm

    -What is about the current Keeps, battlefield objectives, and forts is going to be changed which wont require to purchase the “Pack”
    -What incentive is there going to be in open RvR over then SC RvR or will the incentives finally be equal?
    -Will the VP system be improved?

    • August 19, 2010 7:10 pm

      Come on man, seriously? The only thing remotely close to the new announcement is the first question.

      You know better. Don’t troll my blog when I’m trying to get people real information.

  13. Rivaine permalink
    August 19, 2010 8:26 pm

    This question pertains to this statement from’s article: “To make sure that lower renown rank players don’t get disheartened they will be making the progression through the renown ranks on earlier levels smoother.”
    Does this mean splitting up different tiers closer together so that, say, level 32-40’s feels more like the prior tiers in terms of effectiveness?
    (Can reword this, I think you get what I am after) 😀

  14. Matt permalink
    August 19, 2010 8:29 pm

    Other mmos (see Champion’s Online “Adventure Packs”) are offering similar content packages to their subscribers. Will we be seeing these “Packs” offered in WAR regularly in the future? Will we still be seeing “free” content ala Land of the Dead as well?

  15. Redprosthetic permalink
    August 19, 2010 8:38 pm

    Will the Appearance tab options be changed to allow for special back slot items to work properly in place of standard cloaks (Skaven Skin Cloak, Shawl of Spring, Battlebrew Backpack, etc)? Currently, you get an error message indicating that the X is “too different” from the Y to be used in the appearance slot.

    Its a huge bummer since I burned a gold writ on a Skaven Skin Cloak hoping to be able to use it in the appearance slot thinking that this was the whole purpose of how it was supposed to work.

    • August 19, 2010 11:27 pm

      That would be more appropriate to ask on the forums as it is about current gameplay and not the news they’re announcing.

  16. Khasar of the Wolves permalink
    August 19, 2010 10:32 pm

    “We are learning from the Free to Play model, adopting the things that empower the players to shape their own game experience.”

    All I want to ask is if they’re learning from the Free to Play model, how do they feel about implementing a more innovative subscription model with a wider range of options…though not necessarily free. (ie. Lotro’s Fremium/Premium/VIP… or even like Xbox360’s Arcade/Pro/Elite)

    Clearly, those willing to pay the industry standard are subbed to the game. How about a model to encourage all the Tier1 trial accounts into subscribing by having a more “value-based” model in mind…like perhaps a tier-based payment scheme? This may mean more subs from the value market, more players in T2/T3 RvR, WAR stays competitive and the game flourishes.


  17. Chrin permalink
    August 19, 2010 10:43 pm

    – Timing and media outlet questions: these would depend upon what you hear at Gamesday and before, but generally
    – when is Mythic looking to actually release the RVR pack?
    – what is the schedule for releasing concrete information about the RVR pack- i.e. is the commitment to have news by the end of the summer that they’re excited to tell us about the RVR pack in the coming months, or that the RVR pack will land at the end of summer and they’re going to be telling us what’s next, or…?
    – where should we be looking to learn more about the details? Will the Herald or website be updated in a timely manner to link to interviews and other media as they appear?
    – when in particular should we expect to hear more about their plans for the Skaven?
    – what is Mythic’s strategy for using the RVR pack to bring in new players and raise WAR’s visibility?

    -To what extent is the pack aimed at < rr80 players, vs players with 1+ rr80 toons?

    – Will the players have the opportunity to provide input on the RVR packs in a similar fashion to what was done on the Sovereign revamp?
    – Has Mythic considered implementing in-game surveys to reach a broader section of the?playerbase

    – How is Mythic approaching the balance issue- will I need to buy the power or progression packs to remain competitive? What possible issues will the personality pack have on the economy (e.g. dye AH values)?

    – As part of the overall shift from a "at launch" PVP/PVE mix to a purer PVP focus, is there any chance the RVR packs will address the discrepancies in desirability between end-game PVE and PVP sets (e.g. Darkpromise/Tyrant vs Invader/Warlord for BW/Sorc), either through revamps of the lower sets or implementing token systems for the dungeons?

    – Do the RVR packs correspond to patch 1.4? Should we expect any 1.3.X patches before 1.4 and/or the RVR pack, and if so what is their estimated schedule and focus?

    Thanks and have fun!

  18. Zhaunil permalink
    August 19, 2010 11:52 pm

    Are RvR packs going to be more like F2P where you buy something and are given items and bonus or more like a mini expansion where you new race level or areas are open to you and you still ahve to earn anything unlocked by playing the game?

  19. Gaudry permalink
    August 20, 2010 12:33 am

    Does Bioware Mythic have any plans for a store released expansion in the future to encourage new players who dont know about Warhammer to give it a go?

  20. Kharagrim permalink
    August 20, 2010 12:48 am

    The Skaven Skin Cloak looks great on my ironbreaker. Don’t get me wrong, as my chosen also has one. But, as I don’t expect to see any ratman roaming around Altdorf without an axe shoveled into its head, I,d like to know who will support my realm to fight this new menace that has no room inside our files.

  21. Kharagrim permalink
    August 20, 2010 1:00 am

    My first steps as an ironbreaker were in Midgard if you know what I mean. After a long life fighting my enemies, this old dwarf would like to know what materials are used for the construction of keeps. They have become undestructible… Do you know if any race is investigating the way to break into their walls as once we did in the lands of albion and hibernia? I asked an engineer friend called Malakai Makaisson but he had no idea of how these new keeps are being constructed and why siege weapons like rams have wheels.

  22. Fabio permalink
    August 20, 2010 2:22 am

    Dear Devs. Didn’t you noticed that the neverend city siege it’s REALLY boring?
    With the removal of the forts, now the game start to be really “mechanic”.. 3.4 City siege at day.. Totally boring…
    So what is your plan for the future from this point of view? Like re-introducing Fortress? That can help stop this ridicoulos neverending city siege? Some hope to see new fortress mechanics in the new “Rvr Pack”?

    • August 20, 2010 3:51 am

      FYI: Most of this is off-topic for this news so won’t get asked. The only viable question for this topic is asking about Fortresses in the RvR Pack.

  23. Fabio permalink
    August 20, 2010 2:23 am

    If Skaven will not be a 3rd Faction, I suppose will be an Add for Distro side.
    So what new race will have Order?

    • August 20, 2010 3:51 am

      That’s a question based on an assumption. You need to ask the real question first.

  24. prarydoginit permalink
    August 20, 2010 2:31 am

    Wow, like 90% of these questions are probably going to be answered by Mythic in their presentation. This isn’t exactly an easy assignment you’ve handed out, gaarawarr.

    That being said I’ll contribute to the herd: What are their plans to make the lakes more dynamic, to encourage both small and large scale combat/operations? As it is, taking and holding something for X minutes is inorganic unless you are doing something i.e. rebuilding/reinforcing/manning a cannon. Just standing around waiting for the gates to open so that you can then attack enemy’s on the periphery sucks a WHOLE bunch.

    What are they going to do to allow small groups of friends to throw a wrench in the enemy’s gears? What sort of sandbox/tools are they considering offering to players to create more content?

    • August 20, 2010 3:54 am

      It’s an easy assignment when you stay on-topic. 😉 However, all of this is general gameplay mechanic stuff fit for the Q&A sessions or the forums.

      The questions I need for Saturday need to be pertaining to the news they’re announcing. Otherwise, there’s a 99% chance it will get a “No comment” type of response. Just trying to help. If people need to wait until after more information shows up, ie: Friday’s updates, then do so and then respond before Friday is over so I can compile the questions.

      Otherwise, you get what we come up with on our own, like it or not. :p

  25. Saarc permalink
    August 20, 2010 2:31 am

    Will the Skaven be a 3rd faction?

    What kind of Skaven units will be playable?

    Will the Skaven gain experience/renown, or will they be more akin to playable monsters?

    Will you open up more of the current landscape for RVR? (west praag plz)

    How much additional real estate can we expect to see in RVR?

    Will you make the RVR lakes more dynamic and interactive? (more interesting NPCS – like the current skaven in t2/t3)

    Any plans on adding a relic type mechanic ala DAOC?

    Will Magus robes ever be anything but blue?

    Can you get Shaun White or Tony Hawk to make new animations for the Magus?

    Will there be more emotes with animation that we can taunt our enemies with?

    Any plans to move the start of Tier 4 to level 40?

    Beyond renown points, what bonuses can we expect to see at level 90 and 100?

    Will Gaarawaar start playing his IB on Iron Rock more so I can pay him back for when he bullied me when I was a noob? (well, more of a noob)

    • August 20, 2010 3:55 am

      hahaha… I can answer the last one for you right now: Yeah, once my travel and training let up so I have more time to get online. 😉

  26. maideth permalink
    August 20, 2010 5:56 am

    is the new zone underground?

  27. August 20, 2010 7:11 am

    With the arrival of rvr pack and will you consider separating SC participants based on RR, gear lvl or organisation?
    Will you consider redefining the role of few classes that feel broken and inferior? – magus, marauder, shadow warrior , engineer
    Will you consider adding a 5th tier for people above rr 80? they are already bored with killing lowbies, they gap might increase between those 2.
    For people who enjoy small scale encounters it feels would you consider adding more 6vs6 SCs?
    Do you consider cross-server SC system to speed up queue-and-play and increase the randomness of people you encounter?

  28. Valtis of Gorfang permalink
    August 20, 2010 7:49 am

    Couple questions

    1. In the light of increasing the renown rank cap to 100 will the renown gains and rate of advancement be smoothed out currently the grind from 65 to 80 is very bad and you could spend literally 24-48 ingame hours to move a single rank.

    2. How will the newly minted rr 100s be separated from the rest of the rank 40 players?

    3. What will be the new renown rewards for reaching rank 90 and 100?

    4. Please explain in as much detail as you are able what this power/progression/personality thing is

    5. Will their be a new tier of rr rewards instead of the current 3 tiers?

    6. Why was raising the rr cap over the rank cap chosen?

    7. Will we see new scs?

    8. Will the RvR pack include an overhaul of the zone lock system and if so what can we broadly expect?

    9. What will the new endgame look like for rr 80-100? For example will rr 80-100 still revolve around city sieges or will we have a new endgame goal?

    10. With the additions of the 20 new rr I presume we are looking at 2 new PvP sets (83-90 and 93-100). Since the current Sov set takes up all armor slots except 3 accessories can we expect the new sets to stay with the 8 piece format or move to a format that takes more accessory slots or even possibly weapons?

  29. Tietun permalink
    August 20, 2010 7:53 am

    Probably asked already but Im too lazy to read all of them. =P

    Because of experience with EA “online-only” DLC has been horrible…

    Will the “Pack” be released as only purchasable from internet (download) or can I buy a DVD that I can lock away in a safe, treasure its cover art and be free of the hassle with downloading.

  30. Xyris permalink
    August 20, 2010 8:07 am

    Can I get a sex change? No, really.

    I have a female character that I’d like to switch to be a male one. It should just be a easy appearance change, right? I would LOVE to have this. If this could fit under the ‘Personality’ package, I would be THRILLED!

  31. Maskerad permalink
    August 20, 2010 8:12 am

    When you are talking about a “complete overhaul” of the campaign, could you at least confirm that there will be one and that there will be cooperation between guilds and pugs (not just zerging, but actual cooperation, say guarding objectives and scouts) will be a part of the new system. Essentially, will the new system focus on Strategic and Operational choices as well as combat-tactics?

    If it still isn’t clear what I mean – will we have to choose what keep to defend, not only how to defend it?

  32. Sedok of Azgal permalink
    August 20, 2010 8:17 am

    Since we get more renown ranks and a new zone, can we expect flashy new digs (armor sets) as well?

    • Xyris permalink
      August 20, 2010 9:17 am

      Yes, Carrie just confirmed new sets, during the online dev chat.

  33. Drokarn permalink
    August 20, 2010 1:48 pm

    Hey Gaar,

    Good to hear you’ll be at Gamesday Baltimore. I know I’ll be making a Bee-line for the WAR section once doors open. ( Can’t pass up free goodies) Hope to see you there. Just look for the guy standing next to the girl with the “I ❤ war blogs" shirt. 🙂

  34. GoldenTiger permalink
    August 20, 2010 11:21 pm

    Will we see new jewelry sets for RvR, similar in concept to the TOVL “Glyph” jewelry sets, as an alternative to them?

    How large in-game will the new RvR zone be? Are we talking a large open-field type area in style like Praag but larger with varied terrain, or a smaller lake with a more linear design?

  35. Diego Kober permalink
    August 20, 2010 11:50 pm

    Any chance the Dwarf renown rank 100 title be cool, please? And please dont make something like “Longerbeard” and “Graterbeard” :P.

  36. August 21, 2010 1:58 am

    OK all, read and noted all the questions that were fairly pertinent to what’s up for discussion. We’ll be adding in a bunch of our own and will also free-form them during the conversations as we see possibilities to expound on what they’re telling us.

    Make sure to hit up all the bloggers as well as Twitter to get your answers ASAP. We’ll have full transcripts available as soon as possible, but hopefully we’ll have so much information for you that it takes a while to finish. :p

    Done taking questions here at this time. Hit me up on Twitter if you have last-second ones or on-the-fly ones tomorrow as we get bits of info out there.

  37. Kareem permalink
    August 21, 2010 8:30 am

    Skaven should be something like a hero class , like death knights.

  38. Jay permalink
    August 24, 2010 8:57 am

    Hey guys,

    I was able to talk to Andy a bit at the fan-gathering at Gamescom. We asked him quite some questions about the RvR pack and he gave a few interesting answers:

    -Renown to 100: they are looking to make the way to get to 80 smoother, but “80 to 100 is gonna be a bitch” (yes that is a quote)
    -Skaven: “I can say they will not work as in Aion” meaning that they will definitely be playable (we got a very telling grin when we asked him directly)
    -Three packs, sold seperately and when bought together will give a discount on the total price
    -Pack-names that were mentioned: Power, Progression and Personality
    -New (epic) mounts!
    -New armour sets (no names or specifics given but implied that there were several per career)
    -New RvR area which probably will be underground (several hints he gave led to a very quick conclusion to that effect, which was again “confirmed” which telling grins)
    -Release date: apparently Carrie has told people that they are definitely aiming to release before X-mas

    There’s probably a few things I’m forgetting to mention as Gamescom was quite tiring. Feel free to ask me questions. If I have answers I will gladly give them 🙂

    • Saarc permalink
      August 24, 2010 9:59 am

      Re: 80-100 being a bitch. Awesome!

      Re: Skaven – For those of us who have never set foot into Aion; how did they implement it?

      Re: New RvR area being underground – It’s like someone is reading my mind. I can’t wait.

    • Kareem permalink
      August 24, 2010 10:06 am

      in aion there is third unplayable faction/race , that take fortress also and stuff from the 2 playable factions , i think thats wat he meant.

    • Jay permalink
      August 25, 2010 5:33 am

      Yeah, that’s what he meant. I had to explain it to a friend of mine who was present at the chat who also never played Aion, and my explanation was confirmed by Andy as not being the way Skaven would work.

    • Kareem permalink
      August 25, 2010 7:25 am

      maybe something like instant lvl 40 character , like death knights in WoW or as in age of conan u can start a lvl 50 character as long as u have a hi lvl on the same server .

    • August 25, 2010 6:04 pm

      The mount info is new, so thanks! The rest is definitely supported amongst the other information that was given out.


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